While the Pentecostals spoke in tongues, we lit candles and marched for equality. We win.
On Saturday, the backers of Prop 8 and a bunch of Pentecostal wackadoos piled into Qualcomm Stadium to speak in tongues and make up horror stories about gays and lesbians, all for something called TheCall. How many people were going to be there? I kept seeing the number 40,000. That’s a lot of hate in one place. In response, the No on 8ers decided to have a candlelight vigil and a small rally. I went to the latter, and I heard they expected about a thousand folks to come and shine a little light.
Well, if you’re not obsessively reading the news on Prop 8 as I am, you may not have heard that possibly as few as 5000 people heard TheCall and as many as 6000 showed up to light candles, hear Mayor Sanders and his daughter speak, and then march down University Avenue in a show of support. That last part was when we all realized that there were a lot more than 1000 people there. We completely took over the street. The video I have posted above really captures the experience: It was amazing. Click through the pic, and you’ll find my Flickr set from that night. Rex Wocker has some great pictures and a good write-up here. Here’s his post on TheCall. Bless his heart for going.
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Hating people is sin on either side. We are commanded to LOVE by God. Those who claim to be Christian and Hate their brothers are sinning. Christians that carefully stick to the scriptures know that Homosexuality is sin. We are told to love the person as God does and hate the sin. Christians that are truly following God according to scripture will show love to people and stand against sin (not people). One day EVERY knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. God’s word is truth. Get to know who God is in the scripture and He will open your eyes to the truth.
Whatever. Unless Christians follow all the rules of Leviticus — which none of them do — then they have no moral or logical right to declare homosexuality a sin. Unless you start trying to pass a constitutional amendment to ban the eating of shellfish, you are a hypocrite. –Ed.
Leviticus was written during another dispensation for that time period. We are living in the New Testiment [sic] dispensation of Grace. Those rules were written for those living before God came to earth in human form as Jesus to reveal himself to us. We are no longer “under” the old testiment [sic] law, since Jesus Died on the cross for our sins. The Old Testiment [sic] provides principals to follow but not literal rules. The New Testiment [sic] was written for the dispensation of Grace.
If you don’t care about Leviticus, then you have no justification for calling homosexuality a sin. All you have is Paul’s letters to the Romans. And you’ve really got to stretch your interpretation to make that stuff have anything to do with modern civilization. FAIL. –Ed.
I do care about Leviticus and every book of the Bible. It is in Leviticus where it was first stated that we should LOVE our neighbor. I study them all. 1 Timothy 3:16 says all scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof for correction, for training in righteousness. Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,…will inherit the kingdom of God. It is clear to me, not a stretch at all.
Again: Whatever. What translation is that? King James is “neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” And you’re hardly legislating against the covetous or drunk or the effeminate straight man, are you? No, you’re singling out gays and lesbians. Because you abuse scripture to justify discrimination. It’s disgusting that you claim to know what love is. –Ed.
The version is New American Standard. I do not intend to legislate against anyone. I am talking about what sin is. Every activity listed in that scripture is sin. Homosexuality is included in the list. All of them are sin, we are discussing one of them. My point, the scripture is clear, saying that homosexuality is a sin is not a “stretch”.
Oh, great. So you just came to my blog to lecture me on sin? Homosexuality is not included in the list from Timothy unless you force the translation to make it so. Which by choosing one translation over another, you have done. This is a silly waste of time for you. I couldn’t care less about what you or your translation of the Bible describe as sin. It’s irrelevant to my life. I know that I live a moral life. I don’t need your mythological hooey to validate me. –Ed.
Sorry that you don’t see it. I study both translations which agree and are both taken from the Greek and Hebrew originals. I hope that you understand before it is too late. No more.
I do understand. If God exists, God made me gay, and good, and moral, and capable of free will. Instead of being a good Christian and helping the poor, sick, and hungry, you’d rather wander around the Internet and tell people that they are sinners. Get a life. And leave us alone. –Ed.